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Post by Alined on Jan 31, 2018 0:21:15 GMT
Actions take place simultaneously, but it's still possible to take many actions that are effectively sequential on the same turn without waiting one turn for each to conclude. Providing a grant after diplomacy is a good example, the grant isn't made unless the diplomacy succeeds, but it doesn't have to wait until next turn, either (although the funds don't arrive until then, as usual for grants).
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Jan 31, 2018 0:22:53 GMT
I was forgetting that actually, but that doesn't resolve it I think. But thank you!
To avoid penalties T13 onwards, a realm must declare war on Turn X, and then wage war Turn X+1?
For the purposes of diplomacy T13 onwards, a realm must use diplomacy action on Turn X, and then free grant Turn X+1?
For war that is how it should work, although previous treaties can allow realms to be pulled into wars without a decree. It would depend on the diplomacy, but in most cases, yes. |
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jan 31, 2018 0:32:15 GMT
I was forgetting that actually, but that doesn't resolve it I think. But thank you!
1)To avoid penalties T13 onwards, a realm must declare war on Turn X, and then wage war Turn X+1?
2)For the purposes of diplomacy T13 onwards, a realm must use diplomacy action on Turn X, and then free grant Turn X+1?
1)That depends on how lawful that domain is, but yes. 2) That depends on the wording in the treaty. Domain A will: contribute/deliver/take a grant action to send/pay 1GB each season to domain B some are clearly T X+1 Grants that can be made the following turn, while others clearly need to be made as readied action grants the turn of the diplomacy in order to reach the destination on time, and the rest can be interpreted both ways. |
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Post by SouthWestern Traders on Jan 31, 2018 0:40:45 GMT
I was forgetting that actually, but that doesn't resolve it I think. But thank you!
1)To avoid penalties T13 onwards, a realm must declare war on Turn X, and then wage war Turn X+1?
2)For the purposes of diplomacy T13 onwards, a realm must use diplomacy action on Turn X, and then free grant Turn X+1?
1)That depends on how lawful that domain is, but yes. 2) That depends on the wording in the treaty. Domain A will: contribute/deliver/take a grant action to send/pay 1GB each season to domain B some are clearly T X+1 Grants that can be made the following turn, while others clearly need to be made as readied action grants the turn of the diplomacy in order to reach the destination on time, and the rest can be interpreted both ways. Problem. This ruling allows me to spend more money than I actually had at the time. You're right that I very clearly didn't take a free grant action in T2, because I wouldn't have been able to afford it.
Hence why I never thought of it as a free grant action.
So I'm going to stay on the side of thinking that there should not be a 1GB payment to the druids this turn.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jan 31, 2018 0:51:09 GMT
That is perfectly understandable.
I'm also going to stick to my ruling that the grant is not deleted from this turns P&H
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jan 31, 2018 0:51:32 GMT
But spending money you dont have is a good way to get bad events.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jan 31, 2018 0:53:08 GMT
And we all love bad events. Especially if they happen to someone else.
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Post by SouthWestern Traders on Jan 31, 2018 5:40:39 GMT
There should be a road between Essetir and Wessex.
(Also, I love the bad events that happen to me).
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Post by Elyssia Whiterose (SWT) on Jan 31, 2018 7:06:14 GMT
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jan 31, 2018 17:01:19 GMT
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Feb 19, 2018 22:24:17 GMT
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Post by Alined on Feb 19, 2018 22:43:44 GMT
The Hibernia Slavers' trade holdings in Robogdii were reported as level 0 in Turn 6, level 1 in Turn 7, but have just been empty fields ever since then, including after they were replaced with the STC. Is their holding in Venicii level 0?
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Feb 19, 2018 22:46:05 GMT
The Hibernia Slavers' trade holdings in Robogdii were reported as level 0 in Turn 6, level 1 in Turn 7, but have just been empty fields ever since then, including after they were replaced with the STC. Is their holding in Venicii level 0? In Robogdii the HS holdings where destroyed by Umbrian and Caerleon forces. The STC trade holding in Venicii should be a 0. |
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Post by SouthWestern Traders on Feb 20, 2018 5:48:15 GMT
There's a number of roads and highways missing:
Highway between Caerleon and Camelot
Road between Gawant and Wessex
Road between Camelot and Wessex
Road between Essetir and Wessex
Highway between Dumonia and Wessex
AFAIK, the following realms are missing +1 stability:
Gawant
Camelot
Mercia
Dumonia
Alined
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Post by X-Nemeth on Feb 20, 2018 8:48:32 GMT
Nemeth:
UP is missing 1 trade holding
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