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Post by SouthWestern Traders on Oct 7, 2016 8:26:04 GMT
On that note, loose roleplay and writing about other matters is a great way to direct that energy!
I can also recommend writing OOC drafts in private forums. After about a post or two, they become obsolete, but nobody has read them, so no outrage can be had! And you've had an outlet for anything you might have wanted to say, but shouldn't.
Also, they can be edited. Messages can't.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Oct 7, 2016 8:32:57 GMT
Good point, a lot of people (myself included) has been working with the assumption of the current mechanics, shifting mechanics mid-conflict would entail a lot of new planning. This is very much a thing to keep in mind for future conflicts though, though this should be announced at the beginning of the turn. However, at the beginning of the turn... it might be hard to predict which conflict will blow up and cause a player, say me, to message EVERYONE ALL THE TIME. Seriously though, I feel bad for spamming people. For every paragraph I get, I throw 3 their way, I am kinda worried that people feel they have to agree with me just to get me to shut the [Redacted] up. Please tell me if that is the case, I am capable of shutting up - if my head explodes for that reason, that's my problem. And on that note, I think it is about time you make good on that decree action and publicly state why you are holding Dunbar Prisoner, and what you are accusing him of. Make the town cries cry from having to announce 10 feet of whatever Hunriel has to say, 100 times a day. Otherwise I guess you risk 1000 angry nobles from Nemeth verbally attacking Hunriel on grounds of him whimsically breaking a treaty for personal gain, or worse, uprisings in the Elven paradise.
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Post by X-Tir Moreth(Alexander) on Oct 7, 2016 8:44:17 GMT
That is a fair point, I have been hedging my bets in order to be certain what to write in said decree, I think I'm on the third draft or something. Anyway, we are kinda hijacking the thread I like Tristan's suggestion, it has elegant simplicity, but fully understand if people feel invested in the current rule setup. Shifting sands are hard to stand on, after all.
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Oct 7, 2016 10:28:31 GMT
I think the "hijack" is not really such of yet. In a thread inspired by the complexity and investment of the situation it is normal you two converse on it. If you thread 3 pages of cursing eachother, then it would be a hijack. On the earlier statement. You don't need to shut up. You should however consider the benefit of not sending too much on the subject to any given party. It might come across too frenetic I agree with Nemeth that it is time for your Decree. As we are doing a lot of talking ingame I have the feeling if Tir Moreth waits with the decree it might have serious ingame consequences. Now, on the subject at hand; I support Nemeth's wish on this matter. Having rules change, not that Linde has committed too such, in the middle of an event is no fun at all.
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Post by Gawant (Martin) on Oct 21, 2016 6:10:41 GMT
Possibly just made this moot...
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Post by Gawant (Martin) on Oct 21, 2016 7:21:37 GMT
At least for this point. Generally it seems quite interesting. Gawant would have committed much more influence to the succession question rather than the guilt/innocence one given the option.
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Post by Sir Estian the Wise (Caerleon) on Oct 21, 2016 7:33:45 GMT
The gambit idea is meant to provide a simpler resolution mechanic when there are multiple conflicting actions in people's orders that all relate to the event.
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Post by NSE (Falea of Tir Mor) on Oct 21, 2016 7:43:07 GMT
OOC: It's WM4, so 15-28 days since Ursula was killed and 1-14 days since Alden landed in Nem. There is no way that he has gathered up and gotten the vassalage of any more than a handful of minor nobles. Given the tensions and the army gathering next door, wouldn't most of the nobles be in Nem or those of Helna near rhe governor (as they'd be seeking guidance whether to join Rowena in efforts against the Western Garrison at first and then against the purported invaders the 'coalition'? We're not talking a lot of nobles given the size of Albion and the subset which is Nemeth.
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Post by Gawant (Martin) on Oct 21, 2016 8:02:12 GMT
If I were a noble of Nemeth I would probably be sitting on my estate with my own troops waiting to see who won, then join the winning side at the last moment.
OOC - It is obviously down to Linde but I would probably expect them to be divided between those who support and oppose the coup given the civil war.
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Post by NSE (Falea of Tir Mor) on Oct 21, 2016 8:16:21 GMT
The whole thread is OOC. The distance from Brighton (southern end of Helna) to London (northern Nemeth) is 66 miles. Yes, they used horses and not cars, but certainly not such a vast distance the governor could not speak to them quickly.
If it is such an implausibility, sending word of King Gildenwolf throwing down the challenge and ordering up more troops and reinforcements would certainly take until the end of the turn before the first even formed. (St. Davids to London is 256 miles, so regardless of diatances on Albion, would be four times the distance discussed earlier - presuming map scale is the same).
It can't be this terribly difficult thing on the one part and then not so difficult in the second.
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Post by Gawant (Martin) on Oct 21, 2016 8:31:39 GMT
The King would have sent for reinforcement after the death of Queen Ursula though obviously it will take time. The King may well be dead by the time reinforcements arrive. Gawant has additional standing forces in Gawant that can respond more quickly but there is the time for journeying there and back.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Oct 21, 2016 8:32:20 GMT
Ooc: King Alden has the full support of the Nobles in Helna, Nem and the pledged support of commander Dale on behalf of the western garrison. There surely are Nobles near Meth in the northern part of Nemeth and near crossroads who hasn't pledged support yet and a propper coronation hasn't taken place. But at least 80% of the Nobility of Nemeth are behind their king. This should be observable by the banners present in the king's army. The king's swift consolidation of power is partly due to the support and actions of the druids of NSE who promptly began agitating internally for the legitimacy of the kings rule.
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Post by Caerleon (Tristan) on Oct 21, 2016 8:38:05 GMT
It also mechanically Nemeth doesn't qualify as having roads, so it may only be 66 miles. But that is 66 miles of goat tracks and trails, swamps, hills, rivers and a lack of signage.
Second is the situation in Nemeth, it started at stability -1 so things are a little disorganised, then the Queen gets killed and everyone panics (-1 to -3 stability) so people panic and scatter.
All in all things in Nemeth are fluid and to expect that the Governor has more than the local nobility onside is wishful thinking IMO.
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Post by Godfred Thraw BayardsKing(GT) on Oct 21, 2016 8:41:19 GMT
ooc : so Ursulla was not a real Queen... next time please to tells us before the loss of picket death for nothing ... apparently... The people leads not a king ... only NSE
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Oct 21, 2016 8:42:47 GMT
ooc: If you want to know who is queen and who is not, espionage costs a characer or ruler action :3
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