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Post by Caerleon (Tristan) on Mar 16, 2017 2:59:01 GMT
I'm going to be doing another "A Class at the The College of Aberffraw" post and the topic was going to be inheritance.
So I'm hoping that you can share your opinions on who becomes the next regent for your realm under normal situations. For example Caerleon has descent to a designated member of the Caerleon bloodline (nominated by current ruler).
With obvious Land/Gods choice trumping all (depending on your religion).
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Mar 16, 2017 4:55:54 GMT
Lysanthia is the vested heir. More generally speaking Umbria is an elective monachy with the heir nominated by the Monarch and approved by the leaders of the clans (who generally have discussed it with their clans prior to the met). Due to how bloodlines work the monarch usually nominates their eldest child and that usually gets approved, so it mainly comes up if the Monach wishes to nominate an heir that is deemed unstable or tyrannical (doesn't usually happen) or if the old line dies out. The later actually quite recently, as a mere 400 years ago when the old king and his 3 children all perished in the war against the humans that reduced Umbria to it's current size. The clans gathered and elected Maevïel Caern as the new king.
Much of this probably isn't well know due to the historical isolation of the elves, so your character may not know it, but it's not exactly secret either, so if Carleon asks about it or is extremely well versed in history he might (In other word feel free to use it or gabble it as you wish, though Lysanthia being heir would be well know).
ETA: Lands choice is concidered equivelant to a monachs nomination. It's usually approved, but is not binding to the clans. Lands choice last occured 2543 years ago in a rather unexciting maner as the land simply selected eldest son of the previous king who had not yet been vested as heir. The Clans verified the Choice.
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Post by Alined on Mar 16, 2017 7:28:20 GMT
In Alined, the king's brother inherits, moving on to the king's eldest son when he runs out of brothers. So, Prince Lewis would inherit even if Arthur Valiant had an adult son. There has only been one exception in the kingdom's history; when the male line of the founding dynasty was wiped out, the ranking battle commander among the survivors became king. Alined doesn't consider 'The Land's Choice' a valid form of succession at all, perhaps because they've never had the ill luck of the realm's lawful heir being unfit to rule.
Technically, the definition of a 'brother' or 'son' in Alined's succession laws is 'a member of the family who is able to command in the field', which does help somewhat; a king's brother who can't speak or sit a horse, who has taken the vows, or who simply never agreed to learn warcraft would be disqualified from the succession. Though it's never been tested (of the two previous candidates, one died before her elder brother and the other took the vows), these definitions could include female heirs, in the odd case that they were able commanders.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Mar 16, 2017 10:42:41 GMT
In Mercia with the merger of Mercia and Essetir, the inheritance laws changed so a crowned spouse would become the Monarch immediately after the ruler dies, followed then by the designated heir, the designation of an heir is nearly always the oldest child deemed fit, and the designation can be blocked by the nobles should three quaters of them oppose it.
Should the entire royal family be wiped the Lands choice is generally embraced, it is also custom that will of a Crowned spouse is respected.
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Mar 16, 2017 14:09:55 GMT
For the Temple of the One True God in Albion, the successor is chosen by the Ecclesiasts in a meeting of the Temple Council upon the death or retirement of the previous Archpriest. This is unless an heir is appointed up front who is also chosen by the Temple Council. This last holds true at the current time, when Ecclesiast Meinwen of the Eparchia of Man & Elmet was elected as successor in the year 570 to guarantee a stable succession in case of the untimely death of the current Archpriest. The Temple Council wanted stability in the tumultuous times after the Camelot peace agreement following the appearance of the pretender.
It has been known for an successor to open the position up for re-election after they have risen to the position through such an appointment. In fact Temple scribes indicate that this has been happened five times out of the seven pre-appointed successions in Temple history. Though it also seems all of those have been re-confirmed in their position excepting Prioress Siân of Gawant who withdrew to a life of secluded prayer in the election of the year 463.
Several times in history during a particularly troubling times a faithful appeared who was clearly supported by the favour of the Creator and thus became Archpriest(ess) of the Temple outside of these proceedings. The most famous of these is Saint Ceadda of Mercia who, when the then Archpriest died while trying to mediate during one of the all too common civil wars in the Kingdom Mercia, as a layman rallied the disorganized churchmen and gave shape to much of the Temple structure as it is today.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Mar 30, 2017 3:05:21 GMT
Oh and concerning Umbria the King or Queen is always a realm caster and nearly always a wizard. No one has written this down as a rule, but the most common reason to deviate from a direct succession from parrent to eldest child is that someone else, whether a younger child or someone else has shown greater arcane talents.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Mar 31, 2017 15:08:25 GMT
Oh and as a futher tidbit. It's fairly common for Umbrian regents to abdicate long before their death and serve centuries or at least decades as an advisor to the new regent. In fact it's practically unheard of for an Umbrian regent to die in office except if their death is sudden. For this reason there are a few cases of regents who have served more than once as their successor died suddenly.
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