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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Dec 8, 2015 12:11:19 GMT
The following changes are made to advantage rules:
If you have full advantage from two or more holdings that impact the action you're undertaking (either by direct control or via diplomatic agreements) you will get +6 DAC instead of +4.
The actions affected by this are: Create/rule/contest (trade) Agitate Espionage Rule (province)
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Post by Aethor of Helna (ST) on Apr 9, 2016 19:08:42 GMT
Since hardiness is the counterpoint of advantage and otherwise follows exactly the same rules, I presume the +6 would apply to DDC as well.
E.g. I contest Manor: Prov lvl 3 (ruled by X) Law lvl 3 (ruled by X) Manor lvl 3 (ruled by X)
Normal rules: Hardiness increases DDC by +4 (either from full law or full manor). House rule: Hardiness increases DDC by +6 (from full law And full manor)
(For others: The +6 to DAC on create/rule/contest only applies to trade, because trade is the only holding that benefits from two holdings (guild & law))
Am I correct?
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Apr 10, 2016 23:56:04 GMT
Under the specification of "If you rule all holdings of that type.." does this count when one has 3 levels in a province 4 and there are no other holdings of the same type?
From the way it is written, and the addition of the last Level 0 exception, I understand that one purely has to rule all the holding levels present.
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Post by Caerleon (Tristan) on Apr 11, 2016 1:04:21 GMT
Under the specification of "If you rule all holdings of that type.." does this count when one has 3 levels in a province 4 and there are no other holdings of the same type? In previous RoE games (the predecessor game using these rules) advantage/hardiness was applied based on your holding levels vs. the maximum holding levels. So my assumption would be that having Law 3 in a Province gives you the +2 bonus even if there are no other law holding regents in the province, whilst Law 4 in Province 4 gets you the +4 bonus.
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Apr 11, 2016 1:14:17 GMT
Alright, I am more than willing to settle for form if thats the way its played. Purely for reasoning, I am just wondering at the mention of the "Level 0 holdings never qualify for advantage." I mean if the intent is that you need half of the maximum levels, and the sentence before already states that level 1 in province 1 does not count, in what kind of case would a level 0 holding ever qualify to start with, without adding that clause.
If there were one level 0 holding and one level 1 in a province 2, the level 0 holding could never qualify anyway because it is 0 to start with. (or, for sake of exaggeration, twenty level 0 holdings; 0+0+0+0 is 0 and thus can never be half of anything.)
Actually that holds equally true for my own line of thought as well. Its probably the order in which the statements are written that got me going in circles. Off to bed for me now, if I am tired enough to miss that the first time around its time to sleep. (There is nothing in all that part of the page that actually states either Half the levels are of the whole or of those present. So its pure ruling and as you state its always been played that way, thats the way it is )
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Apr 11, 2016 6:52:20 GMT
Since hardiness is the counterpoint of advantage and otherwise follows exactly the same rules, I presume the +6 would apply to DDC as well. E.g. I contest Manor: Prov lvl 3 (ruled by X) Law lvl 3 (ruled by X) Manor lvl 3 (ruled by X) Normal rules: Hardiness increases DDC by +4 (either from full law or full manor). House rule: Hardiness increases DDC by +6 (from full law And full manor) (For others: The +6 to DAC on create/rule/contest only applies to trade, because trade is the only holding that benefits from two holdings (guild & law)) Am I correct? Yes
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Post by Godfred Thraw BayardsKing(GT) on May 8, 2016 19:27:48 GMT
ok so if i have only 2 holding (no opponent holding) on a level 3 province i have +2 ok ?
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Post by Aethor of Helna (ST) on May 8, 2016 19:43:23 GMT
ok so if i have only 2 holding (no opponent holding) on a level 3 province i have +2 ok ? I believe you have +2 regardless of whether your opponent has any holdings.
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