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Post by Sir Estian the Wise (Caerleon) on Jul 1, 2016 0:00:00 GMT
Battle spells:Attack Battle Spells: Cost 3 RP for each point of power put into it. Each point of power deals 1 hit to the enemy unit with the lowest mortality number, extra hits carry over to the unit with the second lowest mortality number. There is no save With the change in how much damage units do (and the 1hit = 20% HP recovery ruling), how much actual damage does a battle spell do?
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jul 1, 2016 2:17:32 GMT
I doubt 1 hit here is 1/10 the commanders remaining health
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Post by Caerleon (Tristan) on Jul 1, 2016 2:31:42 GMT
I doubt 1 hit here is 1/10 the commanders remaining health It's not that scary. The units with the lowest mortality number tend to have the lowest HP, so even a 5 hit (100% HP) attack does 15 HP damage (on average) which results in 1.5 HP damage if you are on the losing side.
All for the bargain price of 45 RP (30 RP for wizards/sorcerers).
Of course if you can engineer a situation where Ogres/Knights/Guards are the lowest mortality then it gets a lot more fun.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 6, 2016 9:17:20 GMT
Battle spells:Attack Battle Spells: Cost 3 RP for each point of power put into it. Each point of power deals 1 hit to the enemy unit with the lowest mortality number, extra hits carry over to the unit with the second lowest mortality number. There is no save With the change in how much damage units do (and the 1hit = 20% HP recovery ruling), how much actual damage does a battle spell do? I think each Battlespell should do 5HP per hit, regardless of what unit is hit. Does that sound balanced?
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 6, 2016 9:49:30 GMT
So in essence you can kill an average unit by spending 12 RP. That seems a little steep to me? How much rp can be spent in this way?
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 6, 2016 9:54:04 GMT
So in essence you can kill an average unit by spending 12 RP. That seems a little steep to me? How much rp can be spent in this way? a spell caster can spend battle spell points equal to his level. Each battle spell point can inflict 5HP of damage.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 6, 2016 10:31:34 GMT
So, 12 gb unit can be undone by 12 rp of magic, if not countered?
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Jul 6, 2016 10:40:30 GMT
According to Linde's suggestion. Tentativelyyes. If it is an unsupported cavalry unit you are using as an example. Though put a 2gb militia inyo the field next to it and its the Militia that gets killed. 9-12rp for 2GB is a much different calculation. I take it such as all things it just means balancing your forces. Providing cheap screening units, lije one already should when forming an army. Facts are: -12 RP means one needs to be a Regent with substantial holding levels to even get that. -It can be countered and then it is wasted RP. One cannot 'counter' regular damage. So it is not as strong as you seem to think. Well. Thats what I make of it.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 6, 2016 13:08:06 GMT
I had not considered the screening. But it could be countered by scripting "once xx morale is dealt, spend yy rp on dmg"
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Jul 6, 2016 16:54:13 GMT
That could work. However I am not sure if Linde would allow something so mechanical for an order. I for one would keep my battle orders as roleplaywise as possible. Then again that's no safeguard against other casters possibly trying to game the system like that.
Linde?
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 6, 2016 18:20:36 GMT
Rp wise it could be "i want to reign fire on the cavalry when i see them, so that they cannot flank or pursue me." Also remember it is a character action to participate with battle magic?
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Jul 6, 2016 19:53:39 GMT
Yes, it is a character action to do so.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jul 6, 2016 20:08:13 GMT
And i assume its also a Character action to counter enemy spells? But its a free action to participate as a coat commander?
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Post by Caerleon (Tristan) on Jul 6, 2016 21:28:11 GMT
BLanket character action to be present as a commander, but 1 character action involves you in as many battles as the army fights that turn.
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