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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jun 28, 2016 21:52:19 GMT
The problem with EU is not so much transparency as it is spin and campaigning. WTF is EU doing for me that I couldn't get done just as well in my own country? And when they finally do something for me, is it worth all the unwanted crap that is imposed on me?
The national politicians has been really crappy (at least in Denmark) to praise EU when it works, but really good at pointing out when a EU law has cost our country x millions.
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Jun 28, 2016 22:55:19 GMT
As far as I see it that is what our political system is built on. Being very good at pointing out the things that others do, or conceivably could have, do(ne) wrong. While then doing nothing to solve anything in the meantime. I know that the only reason my country has certain laws, very much to our benefit, is due to EU regulation. Unfortunately the contrary is also very true since Belgian parliament automatically ratifies all EU law as presented without debate. Problem there is that it usually contains plenty of and/or situations or grey areas to be defined by the membership country for local implementation. Add that to Belgium's already dodgy legal framework and we get our current mess. Belgian people know next to nothing about what the EU does. Which is all in all sad. If one doesn't know what is wrong, one can't possibly fix it. It is most true that the EU of today is far from its intent and sliding further. Only nobody is trying to do much about it. Local power is much sweeter/easier for those who are in that position. Local politicians throughout Europe are usually very good at pointing out the costs and issues of the EU. Those that do so also tend to be invariably the ones trying to reshape their area to accomodate their rise to power. Isn't it always the same. Needs to be said that the current form of the EU is also a consequence of, among others, the UK its political manoeuvring and pressure. Then again, can you blame me if I state the only reason the UK was in there to start with was to make sure it got messed up? Yes Minister of old: www.youtube.com/watch?v=37iHSwA1SwE
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jun 29, 2016 2:31:05 GMT
Somewhat amusing, that the biggest flaw of EU have seem to be them not wasting enough resources on propaganda
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jun 29, 2016 12:31:24 GMT
Posted something, then removed it as I don't want to delve deep into a political discussion while processing turns.
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Post by Godfred Thraw BayardsKing(GT) on Jun 29, 2016 21:40:45 GMT
Here we hate thatcher ... and his TINA (there is no alternative!) We want to choose between right-wing policies or of left ... real choices ... The continuity, the "frame" of treaties impose us liberal right-wing policies ... Thus thus we find us in a false choice .... in a false democracy, with in France 9 Billionaires who check all the media ... At the exit of 1945, the national compromise admitted that the media must be never possessed by private groups .... Game Over www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NhzTdyZOxY
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Jun 30, 2016 0:27:40 GMT
Ah Renaud!
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jun 30, 2016 2:18:40 GMT
Seems good that we in Denmark also have a state funded news network, in addition to the private ones.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jun 30, 2016 16:54:47 GMT
?? You mean DR whose idea of public service is celebrity dance shows and their reporters who don't even listen to the people they interview?
They just keep asking the same questions over and over even though they got apt answers the first time they asked.
Talk about a waste of taxes.
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Post by Aethor of Helna (ST) on Jun 30, 2016 16:57:25 GMT
And somehow, DR manages to be more competent than 90% of media, despite being all but criminal with their "license fee".
It's kind of scary.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Jun 30, 2016 17:15:45 GMT
The news part of DR is acceptable when compared to most other media. But a lot of there entertainment efforts are... disappointing.
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