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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 25, 2017 10:07:50 GMT
Prosperity is calculated like this:
1: All temporary modifiers are removed. 2: Prosperity modifier is subtracted based on the prosperity without any previous temporary modifiers 3: all permanent positive and negative modifiers from any source are applied 4: The underlying prosperity is raised to 1 or lowered to E if it would have been higher or lower than the scale. 5: If prosperity at this point is turbulent or lower then all actions taken against the ruler and state sponsored institutions within the province will receive negative prosperity modifier as a bonus DAC. 6: temporary modifiers are added
This is not a change of rules, this an explanation of how prosperity has always been run.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 25, 2017 10:17:57 GMT
Question for step 5 above: The prosperity noted in the PH is in fact not the one used to modify actions? Or is step 5 only activated during next turn? Does that also apply to agitates, even if the agitate action description specifically states it is always negatively modified by any and all prosperity related modifiers?
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 25, 2017 11:21:48 GMT
Question for step 5 above: 1) The prosperity noted in the PH is in fact not the one used to modify actions? 2)Or is step 5 only activated during next turn? 3)Does that also apply to agitates, even if the agitate action description specifically states it is always negatively modified by any and all prosperity related modifiers? 1) the prosperity in the P&H is always the one used to modify actions. But sometimes it aid and other times it hinder, removing temporary modifiers from the P&H and checking if the prosperity is turbulent or lower will allow you to see if enemy actions will be positively modified by prosperity. 2) No. 3) Yes and no. The modifier is positive DAC wise, but seeing as Prosperity doesn't modify the DAC of Agitate, it only serves to set DDC, then the positive modifier is of no use.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 25, 2017 12:11:59 GMT
Let me reiterate that question, just to be absolutely sure: Is the result of step 5 active the same turn it happens? Example: lets say TH agitates -10 in Camelot, and in the same turn has an action to create a holding. Does he get the +5 from low prosperity? Or would he have to wait until the following turn?
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 25, 2017 12:52:53 GMT
Let me reiterate that question, just to be absolutely sure: Is the result of step 5 active the same turn it happens? Example: lets say TH agitates -10 in Camelot, and in the same turn has an action to create a holding. 1)Does he get the +5 from low prosperity? 2)Or would he have to wait until the following turn? The question is completely moot. See answer above, but let me copy paste it here for your benefit: "The prosperity in the P&H is always the one used to modify actions." Also please refer to this post: birthrightalbion.freeforums.net/thread/25/dynamics-domain-turn Where the astute will note the last line. But to make absolutely sure you understand: 1)No - As prosperity is calculated after actions, and all actions are modified by the prosperity in the P&H if applicable. 2) Yes - As prosperity is calculated after actions, and all actions are modified by the prosperity in the P&H if applicable, then he would have to wait for next turn P&H.
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Post by X-Nemeth on Jul 25, 2017 13:32:53 GMT
Then your answer to 2) two posts up should have been a yes. Confusing!
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Jul 25, 2017 14:39:01 GMT
Then your answer to 2) two posts up should have been a yes. Confusing! Well, the answer could have been: "No, step 5 is activated in the current turn. But since prosperity is calculated after actions it will not influence actions until next turn." Regardless, the answer to 1) should have relieved confusion.
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Jan 31, 2018 6:01:10 GMT
Prosperity is calculated like this: 1: All temporary modifiers are removed. 2: Prosperity modifier is subtracted based on the prosperity without any previous temporary modifiers 3: all permanent positive and negative modifiers from any source are applied 4: The underlying prosperity is raised to 1 or lowered to E if it would have been higher or lower than the scale. 5: If prosperity at this point is turbulent or lower then all actions taken against the ruler and state sponsored institutions within the province will receive negative prosperity modifier as a bonus DAC. 6: temporary modifiers are added This is not a change of rules, this an explanation of how prosperity has always been run. Based off some insightful conversation in the Shoutbox Linde (x-GM) and I discussed the application of the prosperity rules. We have made the decision not to change the way that prosperity is calculated, but to instead tighten the definition of what is a temporary modifier. Temporary modifiers are now restricted to spells that give a bonus (or penalty) to prosperity like Bless the Holy Land, and festivals (which provide the bonus so long as the festival continues to be a successful action). Taxation modifiers for No/light taxation that had previously been applied as temporary modifiers are now treated as a one off bonus/penalty for entering/leaving that tax state.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 14, 2018 14:14:20 GMT
Question when using grants to provide positive prosperity in a province, the definition of low, mid, high level provinces is that one found on page 23 in the regent guide?
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Apr 17, 2018 2:04:48 GMT
Question when using grants to provide positive prosperity in a province, the definition of low, mid, high level provinces is that one found on page 23 in the regent guide? My guideline: High level provinces 5-6 Mid level 3-4 Low level 1-3 Based off the largest province in the game being high.
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Post by Emiel Rex Nagnati on Apr 17, 2018 5:02:21 GMT
So, what level of province would Nagnati and Gangani equate to against the other provinces in the game?
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Apr 17, 2018 5:40:51 GMT
So, what level of province would Nagnati and Gangani equate to against the other provinces in the game? Ones a level 5, so high. The others a level 3, so mid.
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Post by Emiel Rex Nagnati on Apr 17, 2018 15:37:58 GMT
So, the highest any province can be is 6, and currently the only province that high is Camelot?
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 17, 2018 17:01:22 GMT
Currently the greatest provinces are that of Camelot and Robogdii, they are then defined as the top of high for our campaign it seems.
Nothing says a province could not go to the fourth bracket of very high level province.
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Post by SouthWestern Traders on Apr 17, 2018 17:06:27 GMT
Question when using grants to provide positive prosperity in a province, the definition of low, mid, high level provinces is that one found on page 23 in the regent guide? My guideline: High level provinces 5-6 Mid level 3-4 Low level 1-3 Based off the largest province in the game being high. When I've previously taken the action to grant positive prosperity, I was told that Gawant (a lvl 5 province + 1 for bless) was considered a mid-level province (2GB cost).
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