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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Dec 11, 2016 9:54:06 GMT
Hej Linde,
I've decided, out of the blue, and for no reason at all I'd like to know how the death plague spell works and spread.
It has medium range which means the caster has to be present in the province he casts it. Under medium range in the regents guide it says.
"For spells that target multiple provinces (or
holdings/assets in multiple provinces) the caster is
assumed to travel to each province. If the caster is
somehow prevented from traveling to a certain province,
the spell fails with regard to that province."
1) Does this mean that the caster must travel to each province as it spreads. being present in province 1 as he cast it, in province 2 a month later as it spreads, another month after in province 3 as it spreads there?
2) Does each province affected have to be within the castes ley line network?
3) What happens to an army that's located in a province where death plague is cast?
I personally think that the answer to the two first question should be yes, because otherwise it seems impossible to defend against Death Plague. If the answers are yes then at least I'd have to do some espionage action to get into the provinces that were enemy held which could be opposed with RP and similar and efforts could be made to deny hostile mages ley line networks.
As for the third question I think logically it should affect armies, on the other hand it's really crazy balance wise if you can destroy an entire army with 4/6 rp spent.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Dec 11, 2016 14:20:49 GMT
1. No. Death plague targets only the first province. It spreads randomly from there to adjacent provinces. So the caster need only be in the province of origin.
2. No. As written it is able to ignore ley network restrictions. If it wasn't then spread would not really be random.
3. An army unit within or passing through a plague province must make a morale check each war move taking 1 hit of damage on a failure. Units that fail their save while within a plagued area must continue to make saves even after leaving the province until: A) the unit is dead B) the unit has been targeted by curative magic such as cure army. C) the province where the unit is is targeted by cure plague.
Luckily as the contraction of the plague is magical rather than mundane the infected units aren't contagious.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Dec 11, 2016 14:29:51 GMT
1. No. Death plague targets only the first province. It spreads randomly from there to adjacent provinces. So the caster need only be in the province of origin. 2. No. As written it is able to ignore ley network restrictions. If it wasn't then spread would not really be random. 3. An army unit within or passing through a plague province must make a morale check each war move taking 1 hit of damage on a failure. Units that fail their save while within a plagued area must continue to make saves even after leaving the province until: A) the unit is dead B) the unit has been targeted by curative magic such as cure army. C) the province where the unit is is targeted by cure plague. Luckily as the contraction of the plague is magical rather than mundane the infected units aren't contagious. It doesn't actually say the spread is random, it just says it spreads, I assumed the caster controlled the spread, but you say it's random? Also what is a morale save? A save with morale as modifier? Against what DDC?
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Dec 11, 2016 14:44:13 GMT
Yes it spread to a random province adjacent to infected provinces that isn't too high level to be affected by the spell.
DC 9 for initial save(twice per war move). DC 18 once infected(once per war move).
Same saves for characters except they use constitution rather than morale and characters make daily saves once infected, so keep a cleric handy if you enter a plague province.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Dec 11, 2016 14:58:49 GMT
Yes it spread to a random province adjacent to infected provinces that isn't too high level to be affected by the spell. DC 9 for initial save. DC 18 once infected. Same saves for characters except they use constitution rather than morale and characters make daily saves, so keep a cleric handy if you enter a plague province. I assume the operative spell for curing plague is lesser restoration so a bard, druid or paladin or ranger would also serve right?
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Dec 11, 2016 15:05:39 GMT
Yes
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Dec 11, 2016 15:13:45 GMT
How long does the spell persist BTW and is there a lag before province level actually drops?
For example let's say the spell in Acloud had gone through in Wm1 (OOC: spoiler alert for those not in on that little tidbit of information). It would then have spread to Province 2 in Wm3, P3 in WM5, P4 in WM1 next turn etc. until it ran out of RP. When would accloud be safe again asusming no dispell or cure plague, when would P2 be safe, and when would those provinces have experienced their population drop, would Accloud have dropped in population if a cure plague or dispell had suceeded in WM3 for example?
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Dec 11, 2016 18:04:13 GMT
Luckily as the contraction of the plague is magical rather than mundane the infected units aren't contagious. I am so happy for this.
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Post by Linde (x-GM) on Dec 11, 2016 18:28:27 GMT
How long does the spell persist BTW and is there a lag before province level actually drops? For example let's say the spell in Acloud had gone through in Wm1 (OOC: spoiler alert for those not in on that little tidbit of information). It would then have spread to Province 2 in Wm3, P3 in WM5, P4 in WM1 next turn etc. until it ran out of RP. 1.When would accloud be safe again asusming no dispell or cure plague, 2. when would P2 be safe, 3. and when would those provinces have experienced their population drop, 4.would Accloud have dropped in population if a cure plague or dispell had suceeded in WM3 for example? 1. From turn 10 wm 1. 2. From turn 10 wm 3. 3. At Lothian initiative each wm one sixth of the growth needed to put them half way to their current level would be subtracted. So drop is dependent on growth of the province. 4. At my phone so I can't check the numbers but I doubt it.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Dec 12, 2016 5:07:44 GMT
How long does the spell persist BTW and is there a lag before province level actually drops? For example let's say the spell in Acloud had gone through in Wm1 (OOC: spoiler alert for those not in on that little tidbit of information). It would then have spread to Province 2 in Wm3, P3 in WM5, P4 in WM1 next turn etc. until it ran out of RP. 1.When would accloud be safe again asusming no dispell or cure plague, 2. when would P2 be safe, 3. and when would those provinces have experienced their population drop, 4.would Accloud have dropped in population if a cure plague or dispell had suceeded in WM3 for example? 1. From turn 10 wm 1. 2. From turn 10 wm 3. 3. At Lothian initiative each wm one sixth of the growth needed to put them half way to their current level would be subtracted. So drop is dependent on growth of the province. 4. At my phone so I can't check the numbers but I doubt it. 1) OK, so I assume that this also means that you can't stack death plagues to get more than one population drop per turn right? 2)I suspect I know the answer since it says that no normal contermeasures are effective and the spread is magical, but would using great wall have any effect? A giant 1000 foot tall GoT style ice wall isolating the affected province?
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Dec 12, 2016 10:11:00 GMT
And suddenly it was a magical bird flu.
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