James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 20, 2018 12:32:50 GMT
Hence my original suggestion a while back to get a henchman with spellcasting (and possibly blooded) to do research/adventure actions to locate the sources. Once you know the exact location of them, it should be feasible to disrupt them
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 20, 2018 12:36:47 GMT
Setting such a henchman up as a vassal, might be viable to give them regent actions to just contest away foreign mages sources.
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 20, 2018 12:50:15 GMT
The GMs stance on pocket vassals is "Hahaha, no!" as far as I'm aware. Making him a LT should totally allow him to use his LT action to do so IMO
...Hmmm, maybe I should look into getting a court wizard.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 20, 2018 12:54:58 GMT
Yeah that is properly true, but still an LT realm magic caster should be able to initiate a LT realm action (machine gun) contest action of sources Are court wizards allowed in Camelot, if they are not named Merlin?
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 20, 2018 13:20:34 GMT
I'd obviously be getting a court wizard in umbria or bayard, duh. :3
Actually excellent question -- can any spell casting regent do something with sources, or does it have to be a wizard/cleric/druid/sorcerer? Because I do have access to bards and arcane tricksters.
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 20, 2018 13:47:19 GMT
Hmm, yes. Page 33 in regent guide.
"It is normally the regent or one of his lieutenants that are actually casting the spells. Thus it is not a requirement that your regent personally be able to cast realm magic. As long as you have at least one lieutenant that can do it, you can use your regent actions to take magic actions."
So a wiz/sor lieutenant would allow your regent actions to be magic actions, eg: create/rule/contest source. No further adventuring needed.
Hmmmm.... Maybe James Holt has another daughter/son out there after all.
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Post by ET (Kerberos) on Apr 20, 2018 13:55:40 GMT
Hmm, yes. Page 33 in regent guide. "It is normally the regent or one of his lieutenants that are actually casting the spells. Thus it is not a requirement that your regent personally be able to cast realm magic. As long as you have at least one lieutenant that can do it, you can use your regent actions to take magic actions." So a wiz/sor lieutenant would allow your regent actions to be magic actions, eg: create/rule/contest source. No further adventuring needed. Hmmmm.... Maybe James Holt has another daughter/son out there after all. Nope you need a source network to do magic actions, so you cna create more sources if you have sources, but not otherwise.
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Apr 22, 2018 23:52:23 GMT
To make it clear, the requirement for a character to be able to take Magic actions are: Additionally. That said, specific Magic actions may have further requirements (like source holding requirements).
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Post by Maelgwyn ap Cadwgan (TOG) on Apr 23, 2018 12:02:08 GMT
To make it clear, the requirement for a character to be able to take Magic actions are: Additionally. That said, specific Magic actions may have further requirements (like source holding requirements). So a non magic related realm that has a LT that can do realm magic, under these rules, can have its regent use Regent magic actions (via the linked LT). I take it this includes preparing spells? Asking and remarking this because LT magic casters have been limited by earlier rulings. At this moment a magic related realm (like TOG) with a LT capable of realm magic can only have that LT use one of its actions to prepare spells. So combining that statement and the earlier ruling, an LT for a non-magic realm could prepare multiple spells, but one for a magic realm could only prepare one. This seems to me to be skewed.
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Post by Turn Processing Assistant on Apr 23, 2018 12:54:35 GMT
So a non magic related realm that has a LT that can do realm magic, under these rules, can have its regent use Regent magic actions (via the linked LT). I take it this includes preparing spells? Asking and remarking this because LT magic casters have been limited by earlier rulings. At this moment a magic related realm (like TOG) with a LT capable of realm magic can only have that LT use one of its actions to prepare spells. So combining that statement and the earlier ruling, an LT for a non-magic realm could prepare multiple spells, but one for a magic realm could only prepare one. This seems to me to be skewed. That said, specific Magic actions may have further requirements (like source holding requirements). An LT who is preparing spells that they will cast must use the LT action to prepare those spells. The domain can still use regent actions for other magic actions (like Create/Rule/Contest Source).
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 23, 2018 12:58:52 GMT
I'd certainly be interested too. If I spend 2-3 turns dedicating court actions and saving up regency I could probably make the threshold to conjure up a long-lost son or daughter for Holt with a minor bloodline and realm magic. Camelot may/may not feel like letting me rule unoccupied source. (Probably not because Merlin, but who knows? Maybe we could convince them being able to call on the guild for defensive magic is worth some minor nobles being upset). Bayard probably wouldn't mind me gobbling up all the source there (because that would eject elves). I can't recall if Dal Riada has a specific ruling for who gets to have source. And I'd get some utility realm magic available like scrying to support espionage or some walls to raise around Camelot if the southerners get unruly and threaten to invade.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 23, 2018 13:17:22 GMT
It might been before you joined the game, but Camelot had allowed Tir Moreth to set up defensive magic for Camelot, but the nobles flipped out so much that Camelot ended up repealing that agreement.
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 23, 2018 13:31:22 GMT
Yeah, but that was elves. I'm a super popular Camelot noble that regularly agitates for prosperity and whom the commoners hails as a hero for saving the king. I might be less toxic for magicking.
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Post by Mercia(andreas) on Apr 23, 2018 13:33:43 GMT
True, you are one of them (the camelot nobles), and not a Lothian with a tradition for blood magic.
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James Holt (NT)
Northern Traders
Lord of Waffles, Master of the flight of Daggers
The Iron Bank of Albion
Posts: 366
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Post by James Holt (NT) on Apr 23, 2018 13:35:15 GMT
I'm a loyal vassal of Camelot who's proven his dedication to the realm time and time again. Hunriel P'teen is an elf and a foreigner. In the eyes of fickle lesser nobles, I'm definitely more trustworthy. And that's before spending further agitate actions to trust in Holt, he knows what's good for you.
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